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    OVH what a mess >.<

    http://forum.ovh.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7627

    French are confusing they love the EU but when it suites them. There also changing the name of there website for dedicated servers I wonder why this is :P
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    Haha what a farce. I especially love the bit where he says "We'll be limiting orders while we figure out our business plan." What a bunch of jokers.

    I've got a server with them for the next year at 2.99/month. Even assuming that the hardware fell out of the back of a lorry, that they're powering their generators by burning stray kittens, and cooling their dcs with the tears of their investors, they'd still have to be making a loss. Absolutely insane.
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    What's this about?

    A delay is to be expected in UK due to legal reason.
    What possible legal reasons could there be for not allowing UK people to sign up? (I can think of a few potential legal reasons for not disallowing UK sign-ups).

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    This is what I mean about the French only care about the EU when it suites them. I always thought it was illegal to refuse a service/product to other EU states but there you go. I just don't understand why there opening up a new brand SYS, I think its because people lost their trust with OVH but it makes it so complicated different logins etc.

    I am not planning on getting a server off them but am interested to see what their new range is. This is going to be there new website So You Start by OVH.com

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    We've been using OVH for years for test and dev infrastructure (and prod for a while). They had a series of painful network issues about 6 months ago which prompted us to jump ship to Rapidswitch here in the UK for all our production stuff. Recently when they stopped selling servers (!) we started looking around for alternative low cost providers for spinning up test, dev and demo clusters - QuickPacket in the US have been fine so far, and for Europe we've been looking at Leaseweb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luke.marsden View Post
    QuickPacket in the US have been fine so far, and for Europe we've been looking at Leaseweb.
    I use quickpacket for US servers as well been with them like 3 months so far and they been pretty good, online.net seems ok but how they work is abit dodgy. It would be nice to find another EU alternative to OVH.

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    QuickPacket are awesome for value, my only problem with them until recently was that they were singlehomed in their Atlanta location. Hetzner often have good deals if you look out; https://robot.your-server.de/order/market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humza View Post
    QuickPacket are awesome for value, my only problem with them until recently was that they were singlehomed in their Atlanta location.
    Humza - I'm sorry, but this is incorrect. We've had multiple bandwidth providers since we started back in 2003. Sometimes, it was through our datacenter's bandwidth mix, but it was always with multiple carriers. We've been running our own network for a while now. We signed directly with our first bandwidth provider back in April 2005, and were multihomed between at least one other carrier and the datacenter's mix at a minimum from there forward (with a few exceptions along the way, but we were always at least multihomed through the datacenter's mix).
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    Ah, my bad, well it comes back to me now, when I joined (not too long ago) it was nLayer and tinet which later merged hence my confusion about it, I believe even before the merge nLayer and tinets routing was similar with my ISP. :-)

    (Or perhaps my memory is still deceiving me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humza View Post
    Ah, my bad, well it comes back to me now, when I joined (not too long ago) it was nLayer and tinet which later merged hence my confusion about it, I believe even before the merge nLayer and tinets routing was similar with my ISP. :-)

    (Or perhaps my memory is still deceiving me)
    The whole time we had nLayer and Tinet, we also had Cogent. nLayer and Tinet are completely separate networks, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qps View Post
    nLayer and Tinet are completely separate networks, anyway.
    GTT are certainly doing at least some integration with the nLayer and Inteliquent/TInet networks, for example the nLayer network now has TInet as a transit rather than GlobalCrossing/Level(3).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Freethought View Post
    GTT are certainly doing at least some integration with the nLayer and Inteliquent/TInet networks, for example the nLayer network now has TInet as a transit rather than GlobalCrossing/Level(3).
    Yes, but at the time we had both networks, they were separate. We dropped Tinet shortly after they announced the acquisition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burble View Post
    Haha what a farce. I especially love the bit where he says "We'll be limiting orders while we figure out our business plan." What a bunch of jokers.
    Looks like they've figured it out - their new plan seems to consist of increasing prices. And it only took them 3 months!

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    (Replying to this thread for completeness)

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    Is the loyalty discount on renewals a new feature? If so, that would be another change that would help prevent internal churn.

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    I think it is, and it's a good idea - but doesn't seem to be on the kimsufi range, which I'd have thought would be the worst for churn. Looks like they've sold out of most of those though, so perhaps their plan there is to keep supply lower than demand.

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