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    US Colo

    Who has colo space in the US? Is there anything different about colo in the US that makes it easier or more difficult to colo here as opposed to the EU or anywhere else?

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    Power is 110v compared to 220v/230v over here so 8a here would be 16a in the states, roughly.

    Pricing will be lower due to Real Estate and Fuel costs, but latency for UK and European customers will be quite a bit higher.

    Of course, then you have various import taxes etc unless you buy in the states and get shipped directly to the DC for install

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Power is 110v compared to 220v/230v over here so 8a here would be 16a in the states, roughly.

    Pricing will be lower due to Real Estate and Fuel costs, but latency for UK and European customers will be quite a bit higher.

    Of course, then you have various import taxes etc unless you buy in the states and get shipped directly to the DC for install
    Even worse, there seems to be all sorts of voltages in use at datacentre in the US - 110V, 120V, 208V, 220V!
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    true ... AC/DC also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Freethought View Post
    Even worse, there seems to be all sorts of voltages in use at datacentre in the US - 110V, 120V, 208V, 220V!
    But really not an issue. Anything this side of Noah can cope with all of those without change..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete-CCS View Post
    But really not an issue. Anything this side of Noah can cope with all of those without change..
    PDUs tend to be the exception to this.
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    This to note:

    Power - just go 208/220 for ease
    Cross connects - you will be charged a fortune, no matter what. Take what ever you might pay for a cross connect in recurring fee in the UK, and chances are you can 5x and you'll still be under what you'll end up paying
    Locations - lots of choice, but always get near a good international airport. You should never have to visit, but just in case you fancy a "business trip". Also, figure out who everyone uses locally for rack and stack work, the majority of folks I know that have presence don't use the DC staff for the general day to day, just emergency remote hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Freethought View Post
    Even worse, there seems to be all sorts of voltages in use at datacentre in the US - 110V, 120V, 208V, 220V!
    Most modern psu's can take AC or DC 80 - 2** volts it seems though?

    Oops should have read thread before posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveWright View Post
    Also, figure out who everyone uses locally for rack and stack work
    This has always puzzled me. I would find it very difficult to entrust something so critical to someone else (i.e. far away from your own staff). I understand that "who everyone else uses" = presumably they're ok, but is there any secret to how to find that, or is it just a case of literally asking the DC / providers you know to be in said DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layershift Damien View Post
    This has always puzzled me. I would find it very difficult to entrust something so critical to someone else (i.e. far away from your own staff). I understand that "who everyone else uses" = presumably they're ok, but is there any secret to how to find that, or is it just a case of literally asking the DC / providers you know to be in said DC?
    It seems to get asked on NANOG occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Layershift Damien View Post
    This has always puzzled me. I would find it very difficult to entrust something so critical to someone else (i.e. far away from your own staff). I understand that "who everyone else uses" = presumably they're ok, but is there any secret to how to find that, or is it just a case of literally asking the DC / providers you know to be in said DC?
    I wouldn't just go on the basis of someone said use these folk, doing your own due diligence is always smart and actually managing them properly

    I guess if you've just got a single rack then it's probably not much of an issue, but if you've got a lot and are expanding, then you *need* this. Unless you employ locally, but then thats excessive unless you're running into the 100's of racks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layershift Damien View Post
    This has always puzzled me. I would find it very difficult to entrust something so critical to someone else (i.e. far away from your own staff). I understand that "who everyone else uses" = presumably they're ok, but is there any secret to how to find that, or is it just a case of literally asking the DC / providers you know to be in said DC?
    is racking servers and connecting cables to switches really that critical? Any faults would be detected before going live... its not like you're asking them to configure anything.

    In the US we have the system builder set up the IMPI details for us before shipping... TelX then just connect up where we tell them to. Simples
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