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    Telecity

    We are about to sign contracts with Telecity for a rack. They have offed us their connectivity via two x 1Gbps feeds.

    anyone have any reviews on their connectivity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    We are about to sign contracts with Telecity for a rack. They have offed us their connectivity via two x 1Gbps feeds.

    anyone have any reviews on their connectivity?
    What sort of connectivity? Layer 2 interconnect? IP transit?

    When we were Telecity customers a couple of years ago following their acquisition (and complete destruction) of UKGrid, their connectivity was ridiculously expensive.

    Which Telecity facility is this? There is almost certainly a selection of better, cheaper carriers present on site.

    Just in case you aren't aware, Telecity were just bought by Equinix a few days ago.
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    We have been told the 47U rack will be allocated at Meridian Gate.

    On the paperwork it states "100Mpbs IPMH on 2 x 1G Ports" to be honest the quote we got no one seems to be able to match. just over 650 a month

    We don't have any BGP Routers at the moment so will be initially single homed.

    not got any experience with BGP either, looking for a plug and go type setup initially.

    Can you recommend a basic router that can handle two providers and maybe peering in the future to easily handle 1Gbps most of the time this will never exceed 30mpbs at peak with spikes hitting 1Gbps
    Last edited by uk26; 20th January 2016 at 06:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    We have been told the 47U rack will be allocated at Meridian Gate.

    On the paperwork it states "100Mpbs IPMH on 2 x 1G Ports" to be honest the quote we got no one seems to be able to match. just over 650 a month
    That's pretty cheap for Telecity, but pretty expensive by everyone else's standards.

    Just on this forum there's at least Goscomb/hSo, TeleMagic and LCHost/Netcalibre in Meridian Gate. I think EXNetworks might be there as well.

    Some of the bigger providers like Cogent and Level(3) will have PoPs in Meridian Gate and if you want some unreliable, badly supported rubbish, then there's always C4L.

    Ask Telecity for a copy of their carrier list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Freethought View Post
    That's pretty cheap for Telecity, but pretty expensive by everyone else's standards.

    Just on this forum there's at least Goscomb/hSo, TeleMagic and LCHost/Netcalibre in Meridian Gate. I think EXNetworks might be there as well.

    Some of the bigger providers like Cogent and Level(3) will have PoPs in Meridian Gate and if you want some unreliable, badly supported rubbish, then there's always C4L.

    Ask Telecity for a copy of their carrier list.
    Do you know if Telecity connectivity is any good? needs to be low latency?

    Maybe if we are able to get hold of a BGP Router we could use their feed plus one of the other providers.

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    Yes we are in that site and would be considerably cheaper on IP Transit than TeleCity. We can often beat them on rack pricing too as we have our own cage in there!

    Also if your interested in peering, Linx is not present in that building, however as Linx connections partners we can provide access to Linx from that site backhauled L2 across our network. You would be full linx members and connect directly to linx with simply the backhaul going over our network.

    Joe - TeleMagic!!

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    Couple of things to note... Mer is going to be sold off by Telecity as part of the Equinix takeover (which is now fully done and dusted).

    In terms of what I have heard, they have limited network engineering resource should problems occur, although with them merging with EQX, they have quite a good network engineering team so it will be interesting to see how that pans out (not sure what'll happen to the network services that had been sold to customers in the sites that need to be disposed of though).

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    Are you saying this could be risky? are all the DC's being sold off which Telecity own?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveWright View Post
    Couple of things to note... Mer is going to be sold off by Telecity as part of the Equinix takeover (which is now fully done and dusted).

    In terms of what I have heard, they have limited network engineering resource should problems occur, although with them merging with EQX, they have quite a good network engineering team so it will be interesting to see how that pans out (not sure what'll happen to the network services that had been sold to customers in the sites that need to be disposed of though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    Are you saying this could be risky? are all the DC's being sold off which Telecity own?
    Equinix completed their acquisition of Telecity a few days ago, however in order to satisfy the EU competition requirements due to the combined size of Equinix and Telecity they have to dispose of several data centres. In London they are selling off Telecity Bonnington House, Sovereign House, Meridian Gate and Oliver's Yard as well as Equinix LD3.
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    can you recommend a good starter BGP Router

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    can you recommend a good starter BGP Router
    What sort of Mbps and PPS throughput? What sort of budget?

    If you want a real "starter' option, then there's the open source VyOS Linux distribution which you can run on hardware of your choice. There are also various devices like the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter and Mikrotik RouterBOARD/CloudCoreRouter range, which are basically software forwarding platforms (sometimes with a bit of hardware assistance in ideal conditions) built around Linux running on embedded hardware with a bit of proprietary code on top.
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    I need it to handle burst up to 1Gbps but on average it will never exceed 30Mbps for any length of time.

    Like the idea of software as we can run this on our VMware Cluster and avoid waiting for the likes of Cisco etc to replace faulty hardware.

    is there any software based router / BGP you would prefer. We use PFsense at the office of which i know supports BGP but not sure if that is the best to use for this type of setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    I need it to handle burst up to 1Gbps but on average it will never exceed 30Mbps for any length of time.

    Like the idea of software as we can run this on our VMware Cluster and avoid waiting for the likes of Cisco etc to replace faulty hardware.

    is there any software based router / BGP you would prefer. We use PFsense at the office of which i know supports BGP but not sure if that is the best to use for this type of setup.
    If you want something that's commercially supported, then Juniper have the vMX, Cisco have the CSR 1000v and Alcatel Lucent (now Nokia) have their Virtualized Service Router. These are their normal JUNOS/IOS XE/SR-OS operating systems as the control plane with a software forwarding plane.

    Personally, I'd probably just start with VyOS or Linux running BIRD. That or the x86 version of Mikrotik RouterOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uk26 View Post
    not got any experience with BGP either, looking for a plug and go type setup initially.

    Can you recommend a basic router that can handle two providers and maybe peering in the future to easily handle 1Gbps most of the time this will never exceed 30mpbs at peak with spikes hitting 1Gbps
    Typically if you're completely clueless about a routing protocol like BGP I would suggest sticking to taking dual/multiple feeds from a *decent* single provider. On balance it will almost certianly be more reliable than full table BGP on a single software router operated by someone (no offence) who hasn't got any experience .

    Also 650/mo for 100Mbps 95th in docklands is a joke. Complete joke. There will be people on here who could do 2KW in docklands with that sized commit for less if you push hard enough.
    Last edited by connected; 20th January 2016 at 09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connected View Post
    Typically if you're completely clueless about a routing protocol like BGP I would suggest sticking to taking dual/multiple feeds from a *decent* single provider. On balance it will almost certianly be more reliable than full table BGP on a single software router operated by someone (no offence) who hasn't got any experience .
    We all have to learn and start from somewhere just new to BGP as never had the need for it.

    Was planing on putting in a pair of good spec dual CPU Dell servers both running software routers in HA, CARP setup. Idea being two feeds from each provider one feed from each to each Software Router. one goes down connections still live.

    Quote Originally Posted by connected View Post
    Also 650/mo for 100Mbps 95th in docklands is a joke. Complete joke. There will be people on here who could do 2KW in docklands with that sized commit for less if you push hard enough.
    Maybe if going via a reseller (the more you buy the cheaper it gets) but if going direct they want gold

    I spoke to a few data centres and all seems to charge more. for example Telehouse wanted 1200 a month with no connection included.
    Last edited by uk26; 20th January 2016 at 09:50 PM.

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