C&W and THUS

sleek-neilq · 1st July 2008

Hi all,

With the recent offers from C&W to acquire THUS looking more likely, I'm interested to know if anyone has experience with C&W from a colo perspective.

Wondering how this will affect their London sites, especially Park Royal & IP House.

Any ex or current C&W people on the forum? (thoughts invited)

tema · 1st July 2008

IMO, I dont think it will affect any existing colo hosting services. The acquisition is based around the purchase of Thus existing business customers and their UK Ethernet network.

othellotech · 2nd July 2008

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Originally Posted by sleek-neilq

if anyone has experience with C&W from a colo perspective.

yep, they couldnt give the buildings away ...
telco sites are very different beast to datacentres.

sleek-neilq · 2nd July 2008

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Originally Posted by othellotech

yep, they couldnt give the buildings away ...
telco sites are very different beast to datacentres.

IP house is a good example here, in that when Legend were acquired by THUS they went partially from technical to security staff on site (and only security out of hours) along with progresssively losing interest in colo itself as a product, only being able to sell services where they tied into a bigger MPLS (or similar) deal.

bluewave · 6th September 2008

I suppose we are on the front line on this one. We have a Layer2 National Ethernet connection with Thus and after speaking with our account manager it seams that C&W are primarily after the fibre network. Pricing im told will remain unaffected.

Stuart

Luca · 9th September 2008

If they take over Thus colo facilities, I would expect more red tape and higher prices!

bluewave · 9th September 2008

I suppose we will have to wait and see! The offer hasnt been accepted yet but I dont think any of us would bet against it!

Stuart

Luca · 9th September 2008

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Originally Posted by bluewave

I suppose we will have to wait and see! The offer hasnt been accepted yet but I dont think any of us would bet against it!

Stuart

On the L2 National Ethernet C&W benchmarked their pricing on Thus so their won't be any nasty surprises. We have dozens of circuits from various carriers and NTL:Telewest are very competitive if you are looking for alternatives.

xtraordinary · 10th September 2008

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NTL:Telewest are very competitive if you are looking for alternatives.

I've always found NTL:Telewest quote crazy install fees, even for on-net locations, is your experience different?

Luca · 3rd October 2008

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Originally Posted by xtraordinary

I've always found NTL:Telewest quote crazy install fees, even for on-net locations, is your experience different?

Hi Andrew, sorry to have taken so long to respond. They are a bit steep on installation prices but quite flexible if you are prepared to take a 3 year deal. I
can recommend Calyx group as well....they will always consider the commercial pressures you are facing and construct a deal that works for everyone.

Ben-Orbital · 3rd October 2008

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Originally Posted by xtraordinary

I've always found NTL:Telewest quote crazy install fees, even for on-net locations, is your experience different?

What sort of install price would you call crazy? Also depends on whether you have an LE46 or an LE311 at each end.

PeteK · 6th October 2008

And at what tier you are on NTL:TW sales scale. If you fancy a price comparison drop me the next one you need and I'll run some figures and see how they stack. Most folks don't need a 311 and only have then at aggregate unless they are using a gig tail...

xtraordinary · 6th October 2008

Thanks guys, but you've lost me, can you explain your LE46 and LE311 terminology? I'd been investigating long haul ethernet Edinburgh - London, all on POP inside datacentres, 100Mbps, 200Mbps..upwards.

PeteK · 6th October 2008

LE46's and LE311's are Lightening Edge "managed switches" for want of a better description and are NTL:TW's preferred CPEs.

Product Overview - World Wide Packets - True Carrier Ethernet™

If you are looking for pricing, PM me the sites and B/w's required and I'll sort you a deal.

Regards,

freethought · 7th October 2008

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Originally Posted by PeteK

LE46's and LE311's are Lightening Edge "managed switches" for want of a better description and are NTL:TW's preferred CPEs.

Product Overview - World Wide Packets - True Carrier Ethernet™

If you are looking for pricing, PM me the sites and B/w's required and I'll sort you a deal.

Regards,

Do you use these at all? A mate of mine that works for NTL:Telewest was saying recently that they're an absolute nightmare to work with! Apparently each model has its own seperate OS and different command set etc...