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**heypresto** · 16th June 2005

Originally Posted by Red Fox UK

No problem, but obviously 4D Hosting have been around for a couple of years longer than we have and therefore may be more popular

I'll fight ya for them

**Red Fox UK** · 16th June 2005

Originally Posted by heypresto

I'll fight ya for them

Hey Andy

**heypresto** · 16th June 2005

Howdy

**WebMate** · 17th June 2005

Originally Posted by TDMWeb

Well, apart from the rather poor English on the site (for example, they claim to be a "hosing" company...) it appears from the address that the "company" is run from someone's house. Yup, check the aerial photo for that postcode and it's a housing estate all right.

... No 10 Downing Street is a historic building that is also a place of work. It is a symbol of Government known the world over and is the home to the Prime Minister and his family.

From the outside, the plain Georgian frontage with its famous black door appears too small to accommodate all these roles...

I hardly see this as a problem. I can run my business, if I want to, from an Internet Cafe, and it won't make any difference as far as the customer is concerned.

Alternatively I could rent a stylish modern office in London for £1000 a month and plaster lots of picture of it on my website (but I'd have to make my customers pay for it)

or,

I can get a virtual office address ]Office Front and post an arial view of it on this forum. Would that make you more confident to do business with me?

I wouldn't go anywhere near a host who thinks of spelling and office address as the first two features to comment about another host. (nothing personal pal).

I actually like this: "hosing" run from a "housing" state.

Well done Redfox.
All the best

**Red Fox UK** · 17th June 2005

Exactly - the goal is to lower costs, passing the savings on to the customers (sounds cheesy, but very very true).

**WebMate** · 17th June 2005

I've seen other similar comments on this board where a user comes in asking for reviews on a host, and the first thing they see is other hosts saying
"... the company is not VAT registered or they don't show their VAT number on their website/signature and therefore they must be a small company... blaa blaa..."

I feel very sorry for people who think of VAT registration as an important factor in realiability. They clearly have no idea how the system works and that itself is a negative point.

**hosting365** · 17th June 2005

Well, if a company isnt vat registered, their turnover is very small, hence they wont have money to spend on support staff or networks, infrastructure, etc, etc, etc/

**Red Fox UK** · 17th June 2005

Turnover would be small yes, but that dosent mean captial is starved

New companies need to start somewhere...

**WebMate** · 17th June 2005

Originally Posted by hosting365

Well, if a company isnt vat registered, their turnover is very small, hence they wont have money to spend on support staff or networks, infrastructure, etc, etc, etc/

Very very wrong!

A startup company with zero annual turnover can still register for VAT to benefit from it in the long run, and sometimes just to show they're big (thank's to the common misunderstanding).

A company doing over the VAT limit can still find a way to avoid registering for VAT. The wisdom of doing this is debatable, but if you ask your accountant they may be able to explain it to you.

All the best.

**Red Fox UK** · 18th June 2005

All points are very valid here, VAT or no VAT. However, I dont think that SlimAdy was actually querying business practices.

**fusion** · 18th June 2005

to be fair guys, same as chris i have known warren for a long time and happen to agree that he is one of the most efficient and productive host within the industry... will struggle to find a service like warren does offer to all his clients, and hes level of knowledge is outstanding..

regardless of circumstances, something just need to give people a chance - its only fair!

**Jim** · 19th June 2005

Warren: I see you've replaced the false copyright year on your website (1997-2005) after changing it back during the thread over at WHT on the subject

**Red Fox UK** · 19th June 2005

It isnt false...?

**Jim** · 19th June 2005

Originally Posted by Red Fox UK

It isnt false...?

OK

Surely there was no reason to change it then (now changed back) after you couldn't even get close to proving you've been operating since 97 in the other thread.

**Red Fox UK** · 19th June 2005

Its not just the operating, the date signifes the copyright of the materials used within the website...

1997 was long before Cheap Unlimited Hosting was rebranded to the Red Fox Hosting subsidiary of Red Fox UK

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