Thread: anyone read this?

Hmmm, that's a bit bizarre. I thought they were fairly safe under Swedish law as they didn't actually host any files and it wasn't a crime to aid others in stealing copyrighted material?
Has any evidence ever been presented that they personally profited from TPB?

Not that I agree with their wilful assistance in distributing copyright material...

Its setting a precident. Its all down to the power of the media companies. I think we had all watch out.

But if what they are saying is true, and the way that they are doing it isn't illegal under Swedish law, then that means that the media organisations have successfully used their power to pervert the course of justice which sets a terrible and dangerous precedent

Originally Posted by trans-it

and I'm sure helping people break this law is unlawful too.

Had you actually read any of the commentary on the case , you would know that it's not "unlawful" in Sweden, which is why the result is about politics and corporate control of the legal system, not about justice ...

Hey trans-it.

Where you based in Holland? I used to work for a company that had a branch in Hilversum called Active 24, previously LaDot.

Originally Posted by UK2NET

Hey trans-it.

Where you based in Holland? I used to work for a company that had a branch in Hilversum called Active 24, previously LaDot.

I'm based in Heerlen near Maastricht, its right in the south on the boarder between belgium and Germany.

and you, where are you based now?

Terry

Originally Posted by trans-it

Stealing is stealing and that`s what they were helping people do.

No, they were not stealing.

The legal case and the activities of TPB hinge around whether they were assisting in the wilful infringement of copyright.

The difference is very simple.

If I steal something from you such as your car, you no longer have your car and therefore, I have deprived you of your car and the use of it.

If I make an unauthorized copy of something you own, you still have your own copy and you are still able to do everything you could do with your own copy.

While I may not agree with the current state of copyright law (terms should definitely be shortened with an automatic release into the public domain after a fixed period of time has elapsed once a work is no longer being duplicated for sale), TPB was, and still is, a glorified search engine that happens to contain a significant number of copyrighted works.

Google do not proactively remove links to copyrighted material in their index and nor did TPB - therefore, if TPB is found guilty under Swedish law, a similar case should be made against Google and all other search engine operators who have an official presence in Sweden.

Originally Posted by TerryFroy

No, they were not stealing.

The legal case and the activities of TPB hinge around whether they were assisting in the wilful infringement of copyright.

The difference is very simple.

If I steal something from you such as your car, you no longer have your car and therefore, I have deprived you of your car and the use of it.

If I make an unauthorized copy of something you own, you still have your own copy and you are still able to do everything you could do with your own copy.

While I may not agree with the current state of copyright law (terms should definitely be shortened with an automatic release into the public domain after a fixed period of time has elapsed once a work is no longer being duplicated for sale), TPB was, and still is, a glorified search engine that happens to contain a significant number of copyrighted works.

Google do not proactively remove links to copyrighted material in their index and nor did TPB - therefore, if TPB is found guilty under Swedish law, a similar case should be made against Google and all other search engine operators who have an official presence in Sweden.

I'm afraid this is just semantics they were and are helping people break the law be it copyright or criminal and to say they can be compared to Google is a valid point and if this case does go to the European courts and they are found guilt there too (or however they might call it) then maybe Google will be next.
And as for shortening the length of the copyright laws why would I want that if I have something copyrighted, be it written,composed,scripted etc. That is not the case anyway with these downloads, they are used, if we are to believe the police, sometimes by large criminal organisations.

Terry