Thread: 100mbit by 2017...

BBC News - 'Super-fast broadband' in UK homes by 2017 - Tories

I've been keeping an eye on these kind of 'developments'. I wonder what industries they actually consulted before ramping ahead with such 'aims'.

Its an election year, what should we expect :P next the petrol / diesel pricing will be cut by 50% and all OAP's will be completely looked after!

If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, and quacks like a duck, its probably.....

From a technical perspective it isn't all that difficult to achieve, it's getting customers to pay for it - especially when people now perceive broadband as a freebie or very cheap addon. A single strand of fibre from a green cab to the exchange can provide more than enough bandwidth for 100mbit to each connected house. Fibre to houses if needed can be trench cut from the road to the premises (you'd obviously not want to trench cut the main trunks as that's just asking for lots of trouble).

Of course if you scaled that back a little from 100mbit then VDSL2 could provide 50Mbit/s+ to a great number of people.

Labour saying the Torries are late to the party is a bit of a joke really - there's not much of a party @ 2Mbit/s commitment really, it's pathetic.

Now what the majority will do with 100Mbit/s (other than piracy) is anyone's guess.

Well Virgin Media are already trialing 200Mbit, so it can't be too far off:

200Mb for lucky few in Virgin Media trial - Mobile Broadband Genie

What annoys me more is the upload limit, which makes uploading sites a complete pig. What I can download in less than a minute takes hours to upload.

Edit: Just found this aswell, looks like Virgin Media say they can do 100mbit broadband:

http://www.techradar.com/news/intern...oadband-495230

Originally Posted by Anthony-CloudAbove

Well Virgin Media are already trialing 200Mbit, so it can't be too far off:

200Mb for lucky few in Virgin Media trial - Mobile Broadband Genie

What annoys me more is the upload limit, which makes uploading sites a complete pig. What I can download in less than a minute takes hours to upload.

Edit: Just found this aswell, looks like Virgin Media say they can do 100mbit broadband:

Virgin Media: We could have launched 100Mb broadband | News | TechRadar UK

1.5Mbps up on VM 50Mbps and 2.0-2.5Mbps up on ADSL 2+ Annex M

Originally Posted by Ed-Freethought

1.5Mbps up on VM 50Mbps and 2.0-2.5Mbps up on ADSL 2+ Annex M

I'm on VM 10Mbps and only get 0.5Mbps uploading, but I'm thinking of upgrading to 50Mbps just for the upload speed

Originally Posted by Anthony-CloudAbove

I'm on VM 10Mbps and only get 0.5Mbps uploading, but I'm thinking of upgrading to 50Mbps just for the upload speed

That's pretty much why I've got it

Makes doing Windows re-installs with virtual media on a KVM or DRAC/iLO much quicker

Originally Posted by Anthony-CloudAbove

What annoys me more is the upload limit, which makes uploading sites a complete pig. What I can download in less than a minute takes hours to upload.

So what as a residential punter is upload used for?

The carriers are never going to give massive upload speeds as it will wreck their LLine margins. I even note BT have tight caps on their VDSL product, with or without the optional 10meg up. Its all there for a reason...

If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, and quacks like a duck, its probably.....

Labour?

Originally Posted by JSamuel

Labour?

I don't think I could have said that any better.

The thing is we are still waiting for the proper full UK wide rollout of ADSL, let alone ADSL2+ in all areas.

The fact that so far we cannot accomplish a decent uk wide service is mad when you suddenly start talking about greater speeds, I mean look at bloody Boris jumping on the wagon above getting proper broadband in the UK for the Olympics...

I love the upload speed on Virgin - I recently had a large file to upload quickly and it flew

Now if they were capable of giving a good service all the time, not randomly dropping out or ********* up their network, I'd be a very happy person! (In fairness it's usually fine, but when it goes wrong...)

Depends which service you get - the normal network (anything except 50mbit) here (Plymouth) is currently at something around 98% capacity so is consistently crap, but 50mbit uses a different service and is generally fine.

I do speed tests every now and then and always get 30 - 40mbit; all I care is that I can download at 2Mb/sec on various computers round the place (higher for the wired ones) and see no slowdowns whatsoever.

Until recently it's been reliable; the past week or so have been terrible though - culminating in them fecking up their routing all day Saturday, causing us and ourVirgin clients no end of trouble for most of the day. About the 4th time it's happened too. And even some BT clients due to Virgin announcing a few BT ranges for a short period....

What concerns me is what type of measurement they will use to reach the magic 100Mbps speed - 100Mbps is all well and good if it just works with people on the DSLAM as you, but if you get traffic to the next hop, your real world speeds are unlikely to be anything near that. They can probably get away with still calling it a 100Mbps service though.

Well I have a gigabit service... to my router which then dials up on my 14.4 modem