FTP on Debian

**mhart** · 19th March 2005

Hi,
It would appear that it is against the regs...
(c) the geographical address of the place of business of the supplier to which the consumer may address any complaints;

I know this may seem an odd thing to say, but from what I've seen, many part-time one-man operations are virtual and may not have a 'place of business'. The easy way out for these (some good, some bad) operations is to simply cite the owners home address, but that's a kludge.

Whilst I'm typing, I assume that people are aware that a P.O. box convey no privacy, in that anyone can ask who the owner of a box is, and the Post Office are obliged to disclose the information.

- Mike

**gservs_karl** · 19th March 2005

Originally Posted by racksense

I wouldn't have thought so - as you can't 'hide' behind a Royal Mail PO box.

no, have you seen them, there way to small

**lyndonw** · 19th March 2005

Originally Posted by gservs

no, have you seen them, there way to small

That's - they're way too small.

Perhaps you should pay more attention in English class.

**gservs_karl** · 19th March 2005

Originally Posted by lyndonw

That's - they're way too small.

Perhaps you should pay more attention in English class.

**gservs_karl** · 23rd March 2005

edit: we have now sorted this thanks, FTP is working fine

**cah** · 10th April 2005

After all the info i have got here - I thought i would help, but really ask - why do you even want ftp???

If you want to provide a secure gaming server service then surely SFTP with SSH would be by far more ideal????
That way users can directly access their game server shell for manual server restarts and updates rather than only using rcon/hlsw etc.
At least ssh/sftp is pre-installed even if installing ftpd is as simple as apt-get install ftpd (or whichever package you choose).

**gservs_karl** · 10th April 2005

This information is out of date, GServs dont even offer shared gaming slots, we have founded another company for that.

As stated in our FAQ

2)

Question: How will I access my server?

Answer: With a Windows O/S you can use remote assistance, or VNC. With Linux, direct SSH root access.

That way users can directly access their game server shell for manual server restarts and updates rather than only using rcon/hlsw etc.

If shared game server company did that, what is to top the client from "updating" there server from a 10 slot to a 64 slot?

**luke** · 10th April 2005

Letting game server users have access to a shared system via SSH is just asking for trouble in my opinion.
You can make all the changes you need using FTP apart from perhaps changing the parameters the server uses the start up, however this can be achieved through a simple web interface.

Its also far easier to chroot users using ProFTPD and friends then it is using sftp.

**Karl** · 10th April 2005

Erm.... ProFTPd can do sftp if I'm not mistaken

**gservs_karl** · 10th April 2005

Like i said, you give the client root access then your going to get huge traffic spikes.

4u-servers,
b33f,
Firestorm,
INX-Gaming,
e-FRAG,
forceservers,
xtremeservers.

All the big UK game server rental companies offer FTP, and no SHH access

**luke** · 10th April 2005

Originally Posted by gservs

If shared game server company did that, what is to top the client from "updating" there server from a 10 slot to a 64 slot?

Users can do this by using RCON in most games, so you need to check people are sticking to there user limit just like you do with branding / de-branding.

**gservs_karl** · 10th April 2005

Originally Posted by luke

Users can do this by using RCON in most games, so you need to check people are sticking to there user limit just like you do with branding / de-branding.

Not in HLDS servers and i don’t host any thing else.

**Trax** · 10th April 2005

Originally Posted by gservs

Like i said, you give the client root access then your going to get huge traffic spikes.

4u-servers,
b33f,
Firestorm,
INX-Gaming,
Jolt,
Reload-Network,
e-FRAG,
forceservers,
xtremeservers.

All the big UK game server rental companies offer FTP, and no SHH access

Might depend on the game type but Jolt gave us ssh for our UT server, prob becuase all they did all day long was reboots for people that messed up the ini files.

**gservs_karl** · 10th April 2005

Originally Posted by Trax

Might depend on the game type but Jolt gave us ssh for our UT server, prob becuase all they did all day long was reboots for people that messed up the ini files.

Oh really? Well thats one game, but for most they dont offer SSH

**luke** · 10th April 2005

Originally Posted by Karl

Erm.... ProFTPd can do sftp if I'm not mistaken

I will look into that!
Were developing a new management system, it may be a good time to bring it into play if it supports sftp. Thanks Karl :-)

Originally Posted by Trax

Might depend on the game type but Jolt gave us ssh for our UT server, prob becuase all they did all day long was reboots for people that messed up the ini files.

Jolt has always (AFAIK) offered SSH access, most hosts do not offer SSH access on a shared system tho.
We do not need to reboot servers for our users as they can do it via our web control, most other hosts offer something similar these days.

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