3rd August 2008
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Need to find an ADSL provider
Hi guys,
sorry to bother after such a long and quiet time, but I need to find a half decent ADSL provider that isn't just any of the consumer one. This will be set up as a business account, and I'd rather prefere to avoid BT, Tiscali (Pipex), Sky... well the big ones really. One thing I don't want is a cap limit.
So, any idea of where to go for a reliable shop?
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3rd August 2008
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What speed do you want ?
Max or Traditional (i.e. fixed or variable contention) ?
An other services (mail, domain, dns, hosting) or strictly connection ?
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3rd August 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by othellotech
What speed do you want ?
Max or Traditional (i.e. fixed or variable contention) ?
An other services (mail, domain, dns, hosting) or strictly connection ?
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A tipical 20:1 contention rate would be fine.
I need to provide this ADSL line to the location of a contractor that will do some software development work. If I had to put limits I would say that I would like to see 1mbit/s upload speed and a FAST type connection: it just makes it more reactive when dealing with the Subserve Server.
Download I am not too concerned about and static IP is not a necessity, though welcome as it would make security settings a lot better.
Still I don't like the idea of cap limits 
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3rd August 2008
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Well, for over 750Kbps upload you're going to have to go with ADSL2+ which means LLU or bonding of two lines unless you can get SDSL (which costs a fortune comparatively)
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3rd August 2008
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I think I'll wave the flag here! We can do all of above, ipstream capped and un-capped, datastream, wholesale LLU, SDSL, LLines etc. Drop me a PM or take a look.. Cheers
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4th August 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteK
I think I'll wave the flag here
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We probably all can, but as its outside of the advertising forums no-one else wh0red themselves quite as much Pete 
Back on topic - what's the budget as 1mbit/s upload speed gets you into SDSL, bonded ADSL, or CN21/ADSL2 territory ?
Cap limits are fine as long as they're realistic to your usage - if you really are handling 1mb/s up/down, then a limit of 300Gb/month is very manageable
Oh, and where is the line ( postcode ) as that can limit your possibilties.
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4th August 2008
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Othello,
though my company is in the UK, there are several reasons not to live in it: one of which is the "peculiar" ADSL service conditions. Over here I have a 10mb/1mb at like £23+VAT, it's in fast, is residential and don't have a cap limit nor strange stuff like "fair usage".
My budget is between 20 to 30 ex VAT per month. Download is not important, upload is, and I can have the guy live with 512k, it isn't like he is going to die, you know! I still remember when I used to go on the 'net via UUCP with a 14400b modem back in '91, and I surviverd , so can he with 512k. But really, for the type of job, I'd rather not go less then 512k.
Bonding, IMHO, is more trouble then what it is worth, so I won't go that path. Regarding the postcode, let me enquire
Last edited by DaVinciRisk; 4th August 2008 at 06:54 AM.
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8th August 2008
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Bonding, IMHO, is more trouble then what it is worth, so I won't go that path. Regarding the postcode, let me enquire |
That is why you give it to a company to provide as a fully managed service, OOB access, full hands off to yourselves... I can think of at least one that offers this ;-)
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9th August 2008
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I can recommend Zen, excellent service.
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2nd September 2008
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I've been with Be for a couple of months now and I'm pretty impressed. If you don't want to use the bebox (and I wouldn't) the setup is a bit quirky but other than that I can't fault them.
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2nd September 2008
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In the end the person decided to go and sort this out on his own, so I am out of the game.
Still this is an interesting thread and I will refere to it once that I get further needs.
Thanks to all!
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6th September 2008
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At home I use a Be Unlimited ADSL2 connection @ 4 KM from the exchange my line is synced at 16 Mbit/s. My upstream is 1.2 Mbit/s and a fixed IP comes as part of the package for £18 /month.
Never had a problem but at stephend said put the Bebox in the bin and get yourself a decent router. Also the BeBox / BT Homehub / O2 Box are all based on Thompson Speedtouch routers which have a known bug in them when streaming flash video i.e. iPlayer.
Stuart
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6th September 2008
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Saying that, you do need a Bebox because if you have line problems and the box isn't plugged in then Be aren't interested.
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6th September 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stephend
Saying that, you do need a Bebox because if you have line problems and the box isn't plugged in then Be aren't interested.
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Just plug it back in if you need help from them. 
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7th September 2008
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Or if your really anal like me clone the MAC address of your Be Box and they will never know! Best hardware is a WRT54G box running OpenWRT.
Stuart
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