Thread: Reseller webhosting

Originally Posted by freethought

Most people don't even both re-compiling it, that's what yum/.rpm and apt/.deb were invented for

Yeah you could probably count the number of times I've rebuilt apache from source on a single hand, I use the simple RPM method mostly, call me lazy I don't mind!

Originally Posted by freethought

Admittedly it has been a few years since I used PHP on Windows (version 4), and even then it was just for a development environment - but it was a complete nightmare given how much 3rd party stuff expects a *nix like system. Most of the documentation for 3rd party stuff was written with *nix in mind too, which means there was jack all support either official or otherwise for running most PHP apps on Windows.
As I said, this was some time ago, things may well have changed since then. I would also like to say that I do like 2k3/2k8 server for more Windows-ey tasks.

PHP 5.1 / 5.2 using FastCGI works perfectly for most PHP app's. Only issues you get are with ancient php4 apps

Originally Posted by Dhosting

Yeah you could probably count the number of times I've rebuilt apache from source on a single hand, I use the simple RPM method mostly, call me lazy I don't mind!

Not at all, I can't think of the last time I re-compiled Apache. Have had to compile a couple of modules before, but that's easy enough (if slightly annoying to set up the build environment).

Originally Posted by Dhosting

PHP 5.1 / 5.2 using FastCGI works perfectly for most PHP app's. Only issues you get are with ancient php4 apps

Like I said, it's been a long time PHP5 didn't exist back when I was using PHP+Apache on Windows.
I understand IIS + PHP with FastCGI is quite a good combination these days?

Originally Posted by freethought

I understand IIS + PHP with FastCGI is quite a good combination these days?

Performance is excellent well worth a look.

reboot within 2mins so downtime is next to nothing

We have systems that in 3 years have had zero minutes of downtime - 120 seconds is forever to some people ...

Kernel update on a Nix system to be applied properly do you not have to reboot

I cant recall the last time a kernel update was actually a necessity on a live server, but at least you get to choose when it wants the reboot rather than it being foisted on you

upgrading apache doesn't that usually cause a decent amount of downtime when re-compiling

no downtime beyond the actual restart of the process, no.

in 95% of cases the sites work on Windows they just didn't believe they would.

and we get people very day switch to *nix hosting for better performance, uptime and compatibility - one simply moved their drupla site from a 'doze to a 'nix system (technically the shift was from an IIS to an Apache webserver) and magically all the issues they'd had previouslty went away.

Quite things are better/faster/more-compatible/reliable/easier under the system for which they are designed, or at least primarily expected to be used.

So for php/mysql Linux
For asp/ms-sql Windows
(and yes i know you can run asp on *nix - it's cr@p and always has been since 2001 under CASP on a sun ...)

Plus there's the standards/open-source/licencing issues - which is a whole other batch of arguments

Originally Posted by Dhosting

Not all updates require reboots all depends on what you are doing. We have Windows boxes that reboot within 2mins so downtime is next to nothing.

Correct me if I'm wrong but in most cases for a Kernel update on a Nix system to be applied properly do you not have to reboot?

Pah... my record is 8 seconds using kexec!

Reboot Linux faster using kexec

A kernel upgrade is the only time you ever need to normally reboot a Linux box.

Originally Posted by Dhosting

The amount of people that email us and say we need linux hosting because blah blah blah and in 95% of cases the sites work on Windows they just didn't believe they would.

I might get my head bitten off by someone who knows otherwise but all the high-traffic sites I know of that are written in PHP are hosted on a UNIX variant and not any flavour of operating system currently available from Redmond.

Originally Posted by Alex L

Hang on a second. Someone is trying to set up a hosting business, on a free domain, saying they have thousands of customers, want me to pay £50.47 per month, on a shared server, on a site that looks like a bad edit of a template.

Sorry if this is a serious thread.

What's that got to do with this? Funny or not.

Originally Posted by Samasp

Hey !
Will anyone tell me the difference between Linux hosting and windows hosting? As I think Linux is better one but i need some strong proof supporting the statement that "Linux is the best."

"I like windows, i like linux, but which is better? There's only one way to find out....fight!!"

Originally Posted by danfoster

"I like windows, i like linux, but which is better? There's only one way to find out....fight!!"

Steve Ballmer vs "Kill Bill" Tux... now there's a fight I'd pay to see

Who would you put your money on?

haha it'd be a pretty pathetic fight I reckon :P (ps am I the only one who thinks that penguins are scary?!)

Originally Posted by danfoster

haha it'd be a pretty pathetic fight I reckon :P (ps am I the only one who thinks that penguins are scary?!)

I reckon Ballmer would pummel poor Tux with a couple of chairs

African penguins are just weird...