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3rd July 2009
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#16 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified Standard Host
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Originally Posted by Raja
Would I need custom nameservers? I'm not sure. For now I will be hosting my own sites but may consider reselling in the future.
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You could add custom nameservers at a later stage if you plan on reselling (you don't need them right now from what you are saying), it won't hurt for you to try UK2 for a month, if you aren't happy after a month you could look elsewhere
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3rd July 2009
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#17 (permalink)
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If you possibly plan on reselling then I'd get them as if you want to change over to them at a later date that means changing the dns and potential downtime.
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3rd July 2009
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#18 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified VIP Host
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Originally Posted by Raja
I think the unlimited statement should cover 100 domains
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The server might be fine with your 100 wordpress sites, but what about when the 100 sites of the next reseller are put on there, and then the next, and then the next, and so on - at least with a host that sets some sort of limits (in terms of both clients and domains) you might have a clue how it will perform ...
Even just parking the domain on the box, it'l be using zone files (takes space), apache configs (takes space) directory entries (takes space) - and disks have limits ...
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3rd July 2009
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#19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by othellotech
The server might be fine with your 100 wordpress sites, but what about when the 100 sites of the next reseller are put on there, and then the next, and then the next, and so on - at least with a host that sets some sort of limits (in terms of both clients and domains) you might have a clue how it will perform ...
Even just parking the domain on the box, it'l be using zone files (takes space), apache configs (takes space) directory entries (takes space) - and disks have limits ...
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Do you suggest that I give UK2 a miss and look elsewhere? Do you have any recommendations?
There are many other big brands who also claim to offer unlimited space such as FastHosts (my current provider), Webfusion, Heart Internet, freeola, hostgator, streamline. The list can go on. I wouldnt avoid somebody on the basis that they have stated unlimited bla bla bla. I hope my intentions make sense to you.
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3rd July 2009
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#20 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified Standard Host
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Originally Posted by Raja
Do you suggest that I give UK2 a miss and look elsewhere? Do you have any recommendations?
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Most of us here are Hosts ourselves, so it might be worth posting in the Request for products forum to see what we all have to offer.
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Originally Posted by Raja
There are many other big brands who also claim to offer unlimited space such as FastHosts (my current provider), Webfusion, Heart Internet, freeola, hostgator, streamline. The list can go on. I wouldnt avoid somebody on the basis that they have stated unlimited bla bla bla. I hope my intentions make sense to you.
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All of those names are big brands and although they would have a lot of happy customers, they have a good share of unhappy ones,who are most likely still with them because they got sucked into a lengthy contract - for the price of peanuts.
My tip is don't just go for a large hosting company. Look at the smaller ones who quite often offer a much more personalised service, and will go the extra mile when you need it.
Also, most hosts (especially using cPanel) will have auto-installers for scripts such as Wordpress. Common ones are Fantastico and Installatron.
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3rd July 2009
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#21 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified VIP Host
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Originally Posted by Raja
There are many other big brands who also claim to offer unlimited space such as
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FastHosts - have a "history" of finding reasons to delete peoples acount when you used > a few Gb of space or any significant amount of bandwidth, now owned/operated by 1und1 who IME have are so far beyond useless I dont think there are words
Heart Internet - we get lots of comments like "wow, its so much faster" from people who move away from HI - perhaps "unlimited bandwidth" only goes at AOL dial-up speeds ?
HostGator - just dont ...
Streamline - see FH above
>The list can go on
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>I wouldnt avoid somebody on the basis that they have stated unlimited
It's a marketing gimmick designed to trap the unwary - those with a lack of experience/knowledge - but they're your sites, you have to make your decision on what works best for you.
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3rd July 2009
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#22 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified Standard Host
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Although Rob and other providers posting on this topic (myself included) aren't entirely impartial on the matter, it's fair to say that every quality provider has received a share of migrating customers from those explicitly mentioned. Customers move around all the time of course, but when quality is cited multiple times as the primary motivator for that movement you have to take notice.
"unlimited" is of course just one thing that such companies have in common. Whether or not it's the reason for their poor service or just an associated factor related to the strategy options taken by the company and/or typical customer attracted to that marketing... ?? I don't know, and it's not particularly my place to comment.
I would however suggest that you consider what you require and purchase accordingly. If you need 5GB of space there's not really any need to buy 50GB for instance, and whilst you may well intend to just use a "reasonable amount" relative to what you're paying, you cannot be sure if your neighbours (i.e. those sharing your server) will be so responsible/considerate. If they run badly coded scripts, expect the earth for $2/month and so on, your hosting service will suffer as a result...
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3rd July 2009
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#23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by othellotech
FastHosts - have a "history" of finding reasons to delete peoples acount when you used > a few Gb of space or any significant amount of bandwidth, now owned/operated by 1und1 who IME have are so far beyond useless I dont think there are words
Heart Internet - we get lots of comments like "wow, its so much faster" from people who move away from HI - perhaps "unlimited bandwidth" only goes at AOL dial-up speeds ?
HostGator - just dont ...
Streamline - see FH above
We all know  e
It's a marketing gimmick designed to trap the unwary - those with a lack of experience/knowledge - but they're your sites, you have to make your decision on what works best for you.
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Maybe I wasn't clear. It seems even though everybody is trying to help (which I appreciate), the actual point is being missed. I was hoping to receive comments, advice, reviews etc relating to UK2 and its reseller package. I am not too sure how their uptime, speed, customer service etc is.
If you are aware of any pros and cons about them, would you mind sharing it?
Many Thanks
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3rd July 2009
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#24 (permalink)
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I am a: Certified VIP Host
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Alas you'll find most of the people on here ARE hosts, so wont have any worthwhile or positive experience of a competitors system!
J
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3rd July 2009
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#25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by damien_ls
Although Rob and other providers posting on this topic (myself included) aren't entirely impartial on the matter
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Without mentioning any names (and not singling you out Rob), thats exactly how I feel about some of the responses.
The thread seems to be moving towards small hosting brands verses big hosting brands. That was not my intention at all. I will happily accept feedback/criticism on UK2 as that's the host I am interested in joining but many responses have so far been very general towards those who use the marketing gimmick "unlimited".
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3rd July 2009
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#26 (permalink)
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UK2 are a very large group and have certainly been doing a lot better since Ditlev became involved.
He is very active in addressing any customers concerns, I've seen him post here and on webhostingtalk.
They (among others) seem to offer what you need if we ignore the unlimited factor.
I would suggest giving them ago for a month and seeing how they fit your needs. or posting in the requests section to get several offers/quotes.
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3rd July 2009
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#27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Raja
was hoping to receive comments, advice, reviews etc relating to UK2 and its reseller package
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As most of the regulars here are hosts we're all very unlikely to have used UK2's reseller offerings - I commented only on those with whom I've direct experience. And general comments on the "unlimited "concept...
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4th July 2009
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#28 (permalink)
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Not wanting to bash UK2 (like many other here, I've never used their services) but there was an interesting thread here about them not so long ago that is well worth a read: UK2.Net - Unclear Information
I have to say, that is the only negative thread about them on WHC that I can remember in a long time.
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4th July 2009
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#29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by FH - Tim
UK2 are a very large group and have certainly been doing a lot better since Ditlev became involved.
He is very active in addressing any customers concerns, I've seen him post here and on webhostingtalk.
They (among others) seem to offer what you need if we ignore the unlimited factor.
I would suggest giving them ago for a month and seeing how they fit your needs. or posting in the requests section to get several offers/quotes.
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I pm'd Ditlev and got a very fast response from him. I guess I'l try them for a month and see how things get on on. I will surely post my feedback here and let you all know what I think of UK2 (good or bad, pros or cons). Also, if I decide to move on for whatever reason, I will post in the "request for products" area.
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