15th May 2007
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Vista - So Far!!!
Well its been about a month now since I installed Vista on my laptop; doing a upgrade from the installed XP
Good points:
1. It seems to work with my laptop without issue
2. It looks nice
Bad points:
1. I do not like the start menu structure. its now presented completely flat instead of the popout subfolders
2. Aero. I don't see the point of it
3. Extremely slow at copying files; especically worse when copying across network shares
4. Its a bit overly dumbed down, making previous admin tasks a bit of a chore
5. The new file navagation explorer windows are less easy to navigate around
Overall; I'm sure i'll get used to it but I don't see it as a great improvement so far
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15th May 2007
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Vista lasted a few hours on my laptop, really did not like it. Everything requires confirmation, lost count how many times you have to click "OK" to confirm a simple change.
I think for the "newbie" Vista will probably prove unbreakable, but if you know what you are doing, the prompts just drive you mad.
Not for me at this time
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15th May 2007
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15th May 2007
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theres meant to be ways of disabling that duncan, i just leave it as a secondary os on one of my comps, until everything moves over ill rarely be using it, what annoys me most about it is that it doesnt work that well with creative audigy 2zs sound cards which is a right bugg*r, control panel could of been made more simpler
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15th May 2007
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Got vista on both my PC and Laptop, really like it now and wouldnt use XP again because it seems "old"!
I find the sidebar one of the most useful features along with Bitlocker which is enabled on my laptop. Also "readyboost" works with the SD reader on my laptop giving it a further 2GB boost with no USB drives sticking out anywhere.
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16th May 2007
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New biggest gripe
Upgrade price from Vista Home Premium to Vista Ultimate is £125
Crazy!!
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16th May 2007
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Originally Posted by Jonsen
Got vista on both my PC and Laptop, really like it now and wouldnt use XP again because it seems "old"!
I find the sidebar one of the most useful features along with Bitlocker which is enabled on my laptop. Also "readyboost" works with the SD reader on my laptop giving it a further 2GB boost with no USB drives sticking out anywhere.
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Hmm, the SD reader on my laptop seems to be ignored for ReadyBoost even though i'm putting fast SD cards in.. The Usb2 port mem stick I have works though
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19th May 2007
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I bought a new Vaio laptop in the states last week pre-installed with Vista Home Premium. It does look nice, and the sidebar's useful for a while (I think it's a fad I'll get bored with), most of the stuff it does is dumbed down so much it's very difficult to know what's gone wrong when something doesn't work.
For example, try connecting to a VPN using network connections (openvpn wouldn't work on Vista) and unless it works first time good luck troubleshooting it!
I do like the look of aero though, it's quite nice, but I certainly wouldn't be paying to upgrade a system from XP to Vista, I just got it as it came with my laptop (which was dual-boot vista/debian within hours of powering up). The one advantage it has for my purposes is that every function of my laptop works perfectly with it, as expected, where stuff like my 2 memory card readers, wireless and hotkeys need a bit of hacking to work in linux.
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Oh, and it seems stable so far. I don't think I've rebooted or powered down my laptop since I got back from DC last Friday evening so it's been running smoothly for 8 days.
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19th May 2007
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I've really not taken to Vista at all, like everyone else it seems, it came on a new laptop I bought. Only thing keeping me from removing it is knowing that the drivers will probably all be missing if I do a vanilla XP install.
I now just use it as a remote desktop client to my work pc, a bit of a waste really but I didn't fancy undergoing the process of installing everything on it.
I've also tried office 2007 which lasted about 2 days on my work machine, far too bloated, Outlook just became painfully slow.
Big thumbs down for MS this time...
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19th May 2007
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Vista Ultimate on my Pentium-D works fine. The only difference I've had to make is disabling UAC on my user account; but I've taken to the Run As feature for most stuff that UAC was prompting for anyway.
I had problems with not having signed drivers for the 64bit version though.
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20th May 2007
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Running 32bit Business here, disabled UAC. The file explorer does take a bit of getting used to, but once you've got used to it, it does seem to be that bit quicker.
The one thing I really miss, is being able to do: Win Key -> U -> U to shutdown my PC, that doesn't work any more
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20th May 2007
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I recieved signoff last week to run a pilot of - two combinations of Office 2007 on 1% of desktops in production -
20x workstations will be Office 2007/Vista 32bit Enterprise
20x will be Office 2007/XP Professional 32bit.
NB. We currently use Windows XP with either Office 2003 or Office XP (2002).
We've got a single test machine up and already found some intresting new "features" like one of our legacy Exchange servers (it's being replaced in the next 6 months) is running NT 4.0 and Exchange 5.5 and MS have "forced" Outlook 2007 not to work!
We are going to use some recently purchased machines for the pilot - DELL Optiplex 745 - PentinumD with a gig of ram.
Pilot rollout will likely start within the month or so, so I'll let you know how we get on - would be intrested to hear from anyone who has rolled out Vista in a significant scale.
Ian
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20th May 2007
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Tried vista business on my athlon mp, it seems quite happy, but i've not had the time to sit down and install all the apps required!
Vista gave it a very nice score on its scale thing! The only low score 2.9 was for the ram speed as its only 266mhz but cpu was like 5.4 etc!
We have one box in the office that runs vista but its not used much
Athlon xp 3200+
1Gb Ram
80Gb SATA
FX5200 128Mb
Bit slow at boot but once its in its fine!
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20th May 2007
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Been on vista for 4 weeks now and i have to say i prefer it to XP.
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